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John Shelton's avatar

Intriguing Smith quote. Though I remember Hauerwas saying that where we studied theology is more determinative than our denominational contexts so that whatever your background, you’re going to think more like a Yalie or a Dukie or a Fuller alum than your denominational coreligionists.

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Daniel L. Bacon's avatar

I'm glad that the conversation is happening but I believe that polity itself determines the level of maturity a believer is allowed to achieve within their community. In an elder led context there are a certain amount of elder positions and then no one else is considered mature (men usually fill these positions exclusively). In a congregation led context maturity is conglomerate; either everyone is mature or no one is because it's basically democracy. Neither are altogether biblical. We do not currently have healthy metrics for maturity in the body of Christ because all of our models are extra-biblical by nature. They have more to do with getting a Bible degree or being married or a man or having kids or (quite honestly) being the right height, weight, gender, sexual orientation and ethnicity. It's a real problem that unfortunately every person in this conversation is a contributing part of due to our polities.

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